Fred Ecks ([info]fredx) wrote,
@ 2006-11-27 13:37:00
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Turkey Day in the desert
Ann and I returned yesterday from Death Valley, where we've camped since Wednesday. It was a gorgeous time to be there, even though I should've paid more attention to average temperatures before packing (it was chilly!). Returning was kinda tough, as we found ourselves in the midst of the holiday traffic going home last night. Still, it was worth the trouble; we had a fine time in the sunshine and total silence of backcountry Death Valley.

And now I suppose the holiday shopping season is getting into gear. Sure enough, there's a good "beware" article in the SF Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/26/BUGUDMJF0F1.DTL&type=printable

To give a little perspective to the numbers in that article, given about 110 million households in the US, the $2.4 trillion of consumer debt works out to just about $22,000 per household (that's excluding mortgage debt). The $12.3 trillion including mortgages (and home equity loans) means about $112,000 per household, on average. Keep in mind these averages include the elderly folks with no mortgage and no consumer debt, so for many people, these amounts are higher.

Debt is a deep hole with a very slippery slope. My personal perspective is that debt is the reason Americans work so hard. We wouldn't take our jobs so seriously if we didn't have to make those monthly payments...

What are y'all's holiday plans this year? Will your debt level increase, decrease, or stay about the same? Likewise, how about stress? Any ideas for how to keep it sane?


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[info]kalima62
2006-11-28 01:29 am UTC (link)
We're fortunate in that we don't have to worry about how much we spend on Christmas. That being said, we don't stress about buying, especially since we moved away from some (rather materialistic) family. We mostly send gift cards or food/snack baskets these days.

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[info]fredx
2006-11-30 01:22 am UTC (link)
When I find myself in the position of buying a gift for someone, I too go for the consumables. We all have too much stuff, it seems. But everyone enjoys a loaf of homemade bread, or a bottle of cabernet...

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-28 05:09 pm UTC (link)
My husband and I tend to stay home and play video games like freeciv all day and cook. If the weather is reasonable we plan on going for a long bike ride. Neither of us nor our friends engage in gift giving and I especially despise gift giving when dictated by a calendar. My debt will be going down by the end of the month (about $200) so it will be reason to celebrate.

As for ideas to keep it sane - not having a television certainly helps me.

-bc
thebeancountersadventures.blogspot.com

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[info]fredx
2006-11-30 01:25 am UTC (link)
Ah, a kindred spirit! Congratulations on your debt reduction!

It's funny; I quit watching TV many years ago. Now Ann and I have one (it was on the houseboat when we moved in), and I keep meaning to turn it on to watch "Now" on PBS, and I keep forgetting. There's just always too much else to do. :-)

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(Anonymous)
2006-11-29 05:02 am UTC (link)
I've been so turned off by Christmas over the past few years (mainly due to the frenzy and greed) that I just don't do it anymore. I'm escaping the holidays this year by going to a Vipassana meditation retreat (my first). Ten-days of silence; I can hardly wait! bethers

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[info]fredx
2006-11-30 01:29 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I had a few bad xmases, and now I find a reason to get away for the holidays each year. I'm happy to visit people and family, but not between 12/25 and 1/1. I'll visit later in January, with a suntan. :-)

It's funny you mention Vipassana. I watched a movie a few weeks ago, entitled "Doing Time, Doing Vipassana". It's about the use of Vipassana in the Indian jails, and its amazing results. Please report back, and tell us how it goes!

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(Anonymous)
2006-12-01 06:16 pm UTC (link)
I saw that movie too a few years back and found it very interesting. Carl and Lorena from the People's Guide website have been practicing for 17 years and have written a bit about their experience with Vipassana at http://www.peoplesguide.com/1pages/vip/whyvip.html bethers

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